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Personal Finance (Not Investing) • Roth 401K and Estate tax minimization for wealthy high earners in very high tax state

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Assumptions I'm making:
We will live to our IRS life expectancy. (When in doubt, take the expected value).
Our kids will be in at least the 32% federal bracket, so the effective tax rate on the inherited account is
40% Federal Estate Tax
16% State Estate Tax
19.2% (60% of 32%) Federal Income tax
5% state income taxes.

That adds up to right around 80%.
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And thank you bsteiner, for those articles. You have always been terrific!

I'm not sure I see what was wrong in my calculation. I understand that only the federal estate tax can be deducted. I assumed my kids would have a federal rate at 32% and deducting 40% of that would leave it at about 19%. So adding up 40% + 16% + 19% + 5% = 80%. Was there something else I missed?
Estate tax 50% (16% state, deductible against Federal, so net 9.6%), plus 40% Federal.

Income tax: income 100, less deduction of 40 for Federal estate tax, leaves taxable income of 60. Income tax on 60 at 37% (32% Federal plus 5% state) equals 22.

Total taxes 72%.

But with a 10-year stretch your children may be in a higher bracket than 32% Federal.

And with a large estate you'll want to provide for your children in trust (at 37% Federal) rather than outright, to keep their inheritances out of their estates for estate tax purposes (especially if they're also in a state with a state estate tax), and to protect their inheritances from their creditors and spouses. It may be possible for their trusts not to be subject to state income tax.

Statistics: Posted by bsteiner — Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:22 pm — Replies 7 — Views 299



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